Before we look at the subtleties of a traditional real estate method of calculating an offer to a seller, let’s preface this overview with where the calculation should be used. In general, there are three types of possible purchases – bank owned foreclosures (REOs), non-REOs, and income properties. For this exercise and to make it very simplistic, we’ll look at non-REOs.  These are basically purchases from homeowners selling their homes.

I have seen two investors use the same data and come to very different conclusions about what offer they would make to a homeowner. The difference is in how they handle the data, not the data itself. We’ll use an industry standard called the Maximum Allowable Offer (“MAO”) which is the maximum price an investor would offer a homeowner for his home. Once an investor becomes very familiar with neighborhoods and does a number of deals, he gets enough experience that he seldom needs a formula to calculate his offering price. But for newbies, using this formula is the safe way to start.

The most frequently used Maximum Allowable Offer equation is very simple.  It contains the property’s After Repaired Value (“ARV”), estimated repairs and a multiplier factor, generally 70% or 0.70. In very bad market conditions the multiplier can be decreased to 50%.  In a hot seller’s market, it can be increased to 85% or higher. The entire equation is the MAO = ARV x 0.70 – repairs. An example would be the MAO = $100,000 (ARV) x 0.70 (multiplier) = $70,000 – $20,000 (repairs) = $50,000 Maximum Allowable Offer to the seller.

Where I have seen many newbies go wrong using this equation is first in estimating the ARV of the property. The short course on calculating this value would be to have an appraisal, Broker’s Price Opinion (“BPO”), Comparative Market Analysis (“CMA”), or guess at this value. All of these methods rely heavily on comparable past sales or active listings on the MLS®. I believe the REAL ARV has to be a function of what price sellers are willing to take at that moment in time in that specific neighborhood and market conditions.

I am not being facetious about guessing at this value.  In unsettled markets, all of the above methods are purely educated guesses. Professional appraisers will take offense to this statement, but when I ask if they would buy a specific property for what they say it is worth, the answer is always “no”. Their evaluation is based on comparable (past history) sales in a marketplace not in duress. That should say everything I need to about that.

This REAL ARV is very easily determined by driving the neighborhood.  Call each and every seller.  Do your best negotiation for a fast-cash closing and see what happens. If you push the sellers for what price they will really take you could be surprised and shocked. These sellers are the real competition for the property you are going to purchase and resell. The average investor wouldn’t take the time to do this work.  Not doing the work would result in missing deals that are not listed on the MLS® and that have very motivated sellers. This method of determining ARV is critical to wannabe rehabbers who will have to face the competition when their home is finished and they want to sell to a retail buyer.

Moving forward, the investor has determined his ARV and looks at the multiplier. If he is wholesaling the property his multiplier should be 60% or less.  This is so the investor buyer has the margin to buy it and rehab it and make a profit. Rehabbers pay more than other wholesalers because they are essentially an end-buyer until the property is sold at full retail value. The last part of the equation is the repairs.  These can be determined in two ways, first carefully using experience or getting a value from someone who is experienced or by using a program that does the work for you such as www.ExcelRESoftware.com

Assuming that all of the above values have been determined accurately, what can go wrong from here? Looking at the equation there are two glaring mistakes that investors make. Improperly using the equation is the first thing that can go wrong – MAO = [ARV – repairs] x 0.70 will give an incorrect answer. Using the numbers from the previous example, the equation would look like this:

MAO = [ARV ($100,000) x 0.70 (multiplier) – repairs ($20,000)] = $50,000 MAO or $6,000 less than the previous example. Is this number incorrect? Not exactly, as the equation is still working, but the investor is leaving $6,000 in the hands of the seller and not in his pockets!

The other issue that hasn’t even been addressed is the additional costs not mentioned in this equation, specifically carrying and holding costs. Depending on the financing (even cash) of the purchase and sale of the property, these costs include accrued taxes, double closing costs, utilities, insurance (never forget to put insurance on the property even for a day), transactional funding expenses, hard money costs, and other miscellaneous profit-sucking expenses. These dollars would have been profits to the investor if they hadn’t slowly drained away his profits and caused the demise of many a rehabber in a declining market.

change your life mentoring click button j 300x236 1In summary, an investor must always remain aware how to calculate the REAL ARV; look for deals at the same time by driving the neighborhood for dollars, and be careful calculating the vampire costs to close and carry a property.  Otherwise the investor will offer too much to the seller, and pay out too much in expenses to make a profit worth his time in the deal. Two options to eliminate the fear of this happening is to use the above software that automatically calculates all the carrying costs and expenses.  The other is to do every possible deal by an Assignment of Contract so he has no closing or carrying costs and no money in the deal aside from a small deposit.

To your limitless success,

Dave Dinkel

Real Estate Mentor Program Founder

Visit davedinkel.com for full privacy policy, terms of use, etc.  Be sure to contact us through the website at davedinkel.com if you have questions or concerns ([email protected]).  Results mentioned in this presentation and any video, article, and/or material related to Dave Dinkel and his associated businesses are not typical nor are a guarantee of any earning potential.  No advice is to be construed as legal, accounting, or professional advice EVER.  Please consult related licensed and qualified professionals before taking any action.  No person(s) mentioned in the articles and /or shown on videos received compensation in any form for their opinions.

Before we look at the subtleties of a traditional real estate method of calculating an offer to a seller, let’s preface this overview with where the calculation should be used. In general, there are three types of possible purchases – bank owned foreclosures (REOs), non-REOs, and income properties. For this exercise and to make it very simplistic, we’ll look at non-REOs.  These are basically purchases from homeowners selling their homes.

I have seen two investors use the same data and come to very different conclusions about what offer they would make to a homeowner. The difference is in how they handle the data, not the data itself. We’ll use an industry standard called the Maximum Allowable Offer (“MAO”) which is the maximum price an investor would offer a homeowner for his home. Once an investor becomes very familiar with neighborhoods and does a number of deals, he gets enough experience that he seldom needs a formula to calculate his offering price. But for newbies, using this formula is the safe way to start.

The most frequently used Maximum Allowable Offer equation is very simple.  It contains the property’s After Repaired Value (“ARV”), estimated repairs and a multiplier factor, generally 70% or 0.70. In very bad market conditions the multiplier can be decreased to 50%.  In a hot seller’s market, it can be increased to 85% or higher. The entire equation is the MAO = ARV x 0.70 – repairs. An example would be the MAO = $100,000 (ARV) x 0.70 (multiplier) = $70,000 – $20,000 (repairs) = $50,000 Maximum Allowable Offer to the seller.

Where I have seen many newbies go wrong using this equation is first in estimating the ARV of the property. The short course on calculating this value would be to have an appraisal, Broker’s Price Opinion (“BPO”), Comparative Market Analysis (“CMA”), or guess at this value. All of these methods rely heavily on comparable past sales or active listings on the MLS®. I believe the REAL ARV has to be a function of what price sellers are willing to take at that moment in time in that specific neighborhood and market conditions.

I am not being facetious about guessing at this value.  In unsettled markets, all of the above methods are purely educated guesses. Professional appraisers will take offense to this statement, but when I ask if they would buy a specific property for what they say it is worth, the answer is always “no”. Their evaluation is based on comparable (past history) sales in a marketplace not in duress. That should say everything I need to about that.

This REAL ARV is very easily determined by driving the neighborhood.  Call each and every seller.  Do your best negotiation for a fast-cash closing and see what happens. If you push the sellers for what price they will really take you could be surprised and shocked. These sellers are the real competition for the property you are going to purchase and resell. The average investor wouldn’t take the time to do this work.  Not doing the work would result in missing deals that are not listed on the MLS® and that have very motivated sellers. This method of determining ARV is critical to wannabe rehabbers who will have to face the competition when their home is finished and they want to sell to a retail buyer.

Moving forward, the investor has determined his ARV and looks at the multiplier. If he is wholesaling the property his multiplier should be 60% or less.  This is so the investor buyer has the margin to buy it and rehab it and make a profit. Rehabbers pay more than other wholesalers because they are essentially an end-buyer until the property is sold at full retail value. The last part of the equation is the repairs.  These can be determined in two ways, first carefully using experience or getting a value from someone who is experienced or by using a program that does the work for you such as www.ExcelRESoftware.com

Assuming that all of the above values have been determined accurately, what can go wrong from here? Looking at the equation there are two glaring mistakes that investors make. Improperly using the equation is the first thing that can go wrong – MAO = [ARV – repairs] x 0.70 will give an incorrect answer. Using the numbers from the previous example, the equation would look like this:

MAO = [ARV ($100,000) x 0.70 (multiplier) – repairs ($20,000)] = $50,000 MAO or $6,000 less than the previous example. Is this number incorrect? Not exactly, as the equation is still working, but the investor is leaving $6,000 in the hands of the seller and not in his pockets!

The other issue that hasn’t even been addressed is the additional costs not mentioned in this equation, specifically carrying and holding costs. Depending on the financing (even cash) of the purchase and sale of the property, these costs include accrued taxes, double closing costs, utilities, insurance (never forget to put insurance on the property even for a day), transactional funding expenses, hard money costs, and other miscellaneous profit-sucking expenses. These dollars would have been profits to the investor if they hadn’t slowly drained away his profits and caused the demise of many a rehabber in a declining market.

change your life mentoring click button j 300x236 1In summary, an investor must always remain aware how to calculate the REAL ARV; look for deals at the same time by driving the neighborhood for dollars, and be careful calculating the vampire costs to close and carry a property.  Otherwise the investor will offer too much to the seller, and pay out too much in expenses to make a profit worth his time in the deal. Two options to eliminate the fear of this happening is to use the above software that automatically calculates all the carrying costs and expenses.  The other is to do every possible deal by an Assignment of Contract so he has no closing or carrying costs and no money in the deal aside from a small deposit.

To your limitless success,

Dave Dinkel

Real Estate Mentor Program Founder

Frequently Asked Questions

1. What Should I Do If a Seller Ghosts Me?

If you feel you have been ghosted, act decisively and quickly. If you have tried texting and calling, it’s time to drive by the seller’s location. I always take the recorded Notice of Interest or Memorandum of Contract to leave, so the seller knows it exists. Go by at a time when you know they will be there and don’t be confrontational, just get the facts.

In our experience with new investors, the chances of losing a deal with no contract is likely over 85%. Verbal commitments do not apply in contract law; get everything in writing, especially contract changes.

Different ‘gurus’ have different opinions, but our experience is finding motivated sellers and then a buyer for your deal. Ideally, you should be finding motivated buyers from day one, so you are ready when you find a seller. Buyers are easier to find as you can see at https://davedinkel.com/products/

Prevention only comes about by thinking a Black Hat wholesaler will be coming after your deal. First, educate the seller that an unscrupulous investor may come by and illegally offer more money, have the seller sign your “Notice to Homeowner,” stating that he understands he cannot accept another offer.

There is nothing illegal about changing their mind, it is called seller remorse and occurs about 25% of the time. However, if they have signed your contract, it can’t be cancelled for any reason unless acceptable to the investor/buyer.

If price is an objection, you need to find out how important it is to sell fast and for cash. If the seller isn’t under a time constraint, has a money issue, or has a personal dilemma, he may not agree to the price you need. Offer to help move and build it into your price before you make your offer. However, never give the seller money; only pay the moving company, and only after closing (escrow with a closing agent). If fear is the seller’s issue, break it down into what the real problem is and answer their objections one at a time.

You can get to the root of motivation for a seller by asking a few questions. First, “Why are you selling?”, “How soon can you close?”, and Are you ready to sign an AGREEMENT today, if not, what do I have to do to make you comfortable?’. The answers to these questions will determine the truth about your seller’s motivations.

The best times to involve your attorney in your deals are to have him review your contracting, review the signed contracts from the seller and end buyer, have him open escrow and start the title work, negotiate with city or counties for lien reductions or mortgage payoffs with lenders, and to close the transactions.” Your attorney is not the adversary; it’s the opposing party’s attorney who is a deal killer, and having your attorney allows him to help overcome this obstacle.

The key to successful prospecting and bringing back deals that didn’t close is to follow up until the property is transferred in the public record. Some of our deals have been where the seller came back to us months and years later because they felt comfortable with us and not the other “pushy” investors who contacted them.

Your contract’s most important clauses are inspection period (as long as possible), when the EMD must be deposited if at all, your ability to access the property, any added clauses specific to the property that will protect you against seller claims later that were verbal only.

Visit davedinkel.com for full privacy policy, terms of use, etc.  Be sure to contact us through the website at davedinkel.com if you have questions or concerns ([email protected]).  Results mentioned in this presentation and any video, article, and/or material related to Dave Dinkel and his associated businesses are not typical nor are a guarantee of any earning potential.  No advice is to be construed as legal, accounting, or professional advice EVER.  Please consult related licensed and qualified professionals before taking any action.  No person(s) mentioned in the articles and /or shown on videos received compensation in any form for their opinions.